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Stephen Williams makes The Times look bad... - Mark's Journal
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Stephen Williams makes The Times look bad...
"The exception in the cut-rate arena will be, as usual, Apple. The company, gaining ground in computer market share this year, jump-started its Christmas push in October with a new range of MacBook and MacBook Pro portables, adding features (and a trim new shape and lighter weight) but maintaining prices in the $1,300 to $2,500 range. Macs don't go on sale, even on Black Fridays." -- Circuits

Dolt. Apple does this every year; Stephen Williams has just announced he's not qualified to cover the industry. Look elsewhere for your Black Friday coverage.
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glithander From: glithander Date: November 28th, 2008 04:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
While I'll agree that Williams wasn't paying attention, I have to say that Apple's are rarely on sale; and even then the savings aren't all that much... $100 off a laptop? When the laptops are already overpriced?

13" MacBook Pro
2.1gHz proc
1.0gb RAM
120gb HDD
On Sale Today: $948.00 (save $51.00)

15" Dell Inspiron 1525
2.0gHz proc
3.0gb RAM
250gb HDD
On Sale Today: $599.00 (save $285.00)

In light of that, I'd agree that it doesn't seem like Mac's ever go on sale.

Personally, I'd love to get a Mac. But when I can get the same (or better) equipment for half the price?
gregtrotter From: gregtrotter Date: November 28th, 2008 05:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, a Mac can run both Windows and MacOS. The Dell can't.

So, I'd say that you get half the machine for half the price.
glithander From: glithander Date: November 28th, 2008 05:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hardly the point, when the Dell *could* run MacOS if Apple would release it. And when 99.95% of the software will run on either MacOS or Windows these days.

*shrugs*

You buy Apple because you want to have the Apple experience. They set their price and sell for whatever they want because they are the only supplier.

Kinda like with cars. People who love to drive, say, Volvo's will pay extra to have a Volvo and not even bother to look at a Kia - even though the Kia would be a sufficient vehicle.

It would be nice for Apple to lower their price points. But they won't. It'd be nice for Apple to have a legitimate sale - but they won't. It'd be nice to have a MacBook or two at home... but at these prices, paying for the right to run MacOS just isn't worth it to me.







mhaithaca From: mhaithaca Date: November 28th, 2008 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

Unrelated to the point of my post, there's an argument to be made that Apple hardware is higher priced than some of the Windows alternatives (though of course it's comparable to or cheaper than the high-end products from Sony et al), and there's an argument to be made that Apple's $100ish discounts today aren't going to be enough to sway some purchasers who are otherwise looking to buy Dells.
bcampbell From: bcampbell Date: November 28th, 2008 06:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Okay, there is an iMac and a MacBook on sale, but at 4% and 8% off respectively. Considering this is black friday, when most retailers are doing 25%+ off sales, I think the point stands that the price of Apple products doesn't fluctuate much.

Compare that to other offers out there... 23% off this Dell XPS, 32% off this Dell desktop, or 24% on a Sony Vaio. There are probably better deals at some retailers too. There's a point that when most tech is 20-35% off, a 4% or 8% sale isn't really a "sale".
mhaithaca From: mhaithaca Date: November 28th, 2008 07:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

I think that says more about how tight the margins are, or aren't, for these various product lines. An 8% discount off a brand new model sounds like a sharp discount to me.
bcampbell From: bcampbell Date: November 28th, 2008 07:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
If you want to interpret it that way, sure. But I think that the original statement in the article, "The exception in the cut-rate arena will be, as usual, Apple" stands. Many of the other sales on technology items today and this weekend are "cut-rate." That term in no way describes the discounts Apple is offering.
mhaithaca From: mhaithaca Date: November 28th, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC) (Link)

See, I think there's a case to be made that Apple is stingy in its Black Friday sales, compared to retailers like Best Buy... but that's not what he said.
eugeneonstage10 From: eugeneonstage10 Date: November 29th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
i like the profile picture for this one . . . haha kinda creepy i kno but my initials are jk which happen to be in the picture
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